The Israel-Gaza War: An Unfiltered Interview With Steven Machat
It's one of the most delicate issues of our time. The Muses asked. So I answered.
This morning, July 17, the Muses visited upon me and my beautiful wife, Debbie, at our home in Miami, and asked me questions about one of the defining issues of our time: the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. My following answers were off the top of my head:
You’ve been watching this conflict unfold for decades. How have you personally seen the Israel–Palestine situation evolve?
It makes me sick. I’ve had the luxury of knowing many Palestinian people — and the same with local Hebrew Israelis and European Jews, as well as Jews from Iran, Libya, Morocco, Syria. The Jews who now make up Israel come from entirely different cultures than whatever they think a “Jew” is.
What really sickens me is this: Palestinians are Semites — DNA Semites — while European Jews are cultural Semites. But we live in a world that divides. A world where power needs enemies in order to rule with an iron fist, instead of living in the world we dreamt of when we chose to incarnate into life.
The most evil invention of mankind is the Sky God that looks like man. We’re told to bow to this God and ask for protection — whether we’re right or wrong — and we’re told to have “faith” that Sky God will sort it all out. That’s the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard.
I’ve lived nearly 73 rotations around this Earth. I’ve lived in the creative side of music, the business side — and what I’ve learned is that we all come from the same source, the same energy. But we’ve allowed uneducated, superstitious beliefs to divide us — attempts to understand the energies that run the Earth and our bodies, without actually understanding them.
Earth is governed by its atmosphere, shaped by Mother Earth and the planetary wind rotations around the sun. That’s solar energy. And from that, we built myth. We built religion. I’ve studied every religion I could find — and what I see today makes me sick.
If Israel truly believed in its divine purpose, they wouldn’t be doing what they’re doing. The Europeans came and conquered a conclave, claiming, “My Sky God gave me this land.” But if you look into how Israel became this so-called “Holy Grail,” you’ll see it began in the 1890s and early 1900s. They were searching for a homeland. Nationalism had risen in the 1870s and 1880s — when the German tribe created the modern idea of the Jewish tribe. There had always been Jews as a religion. But this was the invention of Jewish nationalism.
Eventually, they realized the Jews were never going to be “one of us.” These were Ashkenazis — European Jews. So they went looking for territory. And after World War I, they chose what they called Palestine. But instead of building peace — instead of accepting all religions — they made it a religious state. And today, Israel is a racist nation.
The Palestinians? I’ve had beautiful, creative experiences with them. They’re Semites — and yet they’ve been specifically excluded from the Arab world. Look at 1991: when the U.S. and NATO beat Iraq and backed Kuwait. Kuwait was a British invention — a nation created so their ships could cruise the Persian Gulf. The king? Appointed by the British.
Same with Saudi Arabia. The British created it. They divided Palestine. They drew the borders of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq. Iran is older — a different story. But who are the Palestinians? Why can’t they have a homeland?
And while we’re at it — who are the Kurds? The Druze? The Alawites? These are ancient peoples still trapped in 2,000-year-old religious conflicts. And we don’t have answers. Why? Because no one wants to say it out loud: your belief in Sky God is ridiculous.
We are all the same people, lost and trying to find our way home. And home is where we incarnate — where we experience love. My life’s mission has been to find the common denominator. And I see it in music. I see it in dance. I’ve had the blessing of traveling the world, producing records, engaging with people on both spiritual and intellectual levels. What I want to know is: where do your myths come from? Why do you believe what you believe?
You were in Israel in 2023, just before the October 7 attacks. What was your immediate reaction when it happened?
Yes, I had just been in Israel that August, promoting my book Unraveling the Bible. That book took my entire life to write — and it’s about understanding our true origins. The way I see it, people are lost. They’re following systems built on lies, and those systems don’t want you to know the truth.
So I researched and studied. I worked inside the system because I had to — I had a wife, I had children. But all the while, I kept questioning. Like Peter Gabriel sang in 1980’s “Intruder”: Open doors would soon be shut. I’d ask people: Why cover your head if God made you? If he wanted your head covered, wouldn’t you be born with it?
So when I heard about the attack on October 7 — I wasn’t surprised. I was home in Miami. My friend called and said, “We’ve been invaded.” It was heartbreaking. But I knew this was coming. You can’t lock people into Gaza — a space smaller than Miami Beach — and expect nothing to happen. It’s a pressure cooker.
And let’s not forget: Hamas was enabled by Israel and the U.S. They were created as a counter to the PLO. Netanyahu? He’s a grifter. He doesn’t unite people — he exploits division.
I write about all of this in Unraveling the Bible — how ancient beings from Nibiru, the Nephilim, created us. “Nephilim” means “gods,” plural — not one god. That’s why the biblical God seems bipolar. He wasn’t one being. He was two — two opposing energies playing with us like chess pieces.
The people who carried out those atrocities — they acted like animals. And when humanity gives into the orgy of death, it loses itself. We are the only animals that kill each other and don’t even eat what we kill.
I’ve worked around the world. I’ve produced massive events. So when I learned there were no guards at that all-night music festival — people high on ecstasy, totally vulnerable — and Hamas came in and raped, murdered, and celebrated it? It was horrific.
And I don’t believe Israel “fell asleep.” Their defense systems don’t just shut down. This was a setup. There’s no other way to explain how a security state like Israel missed it.
Israeli police don’t fall asleep. So where were they?
That music festival was just a few miles from the Gaza border.
I’ve been there — to the Gaza border. One day, just being cute, I walked toward it. The Gazans fired over my head. I’ve got a video — you can hear the gunshots clearly. You can see the people behind me yelling, “Steven, Steven, come back!”
Hamas provoked a massively disproportionate retaliation from Israel. How can anyone believe they have the Palestinian people’s interests in mind?
That’s 100% true. Who the hell is Hamas? They’ve made themselves the prison guards of the Palestinian people — and Israel lets it happen. They keep them in power.
In 2018, I gave a lecture in Israel and told them straight up: “You created Hamas — now get rid of them.” I said, open the gates, let the people out, and flood those tunnels with water. I’ve seen a million people on a farm at a festival. I know how to handle crowds. This isn’t impossible. You could do it — but they won’t.
Why? Because if Gaza had peace — real peace — the war industry would collapse. There’d be no bombs, no weapons sales. NATO, the U.S., the U.K., France — they’d all be out of business. Peace isn’t profitable.
Look at history. The same banks funded both sides of the Cold War. I saw it firsthand in Europe. We’re stuck in the same loop. Nothing changes.
And you know why? Because of this idea — this belief — that your god gives you permission to kill. That’s not God. That’s Satan. And it’s not even real. It’s imaginary. But here’s the thing: if you act on something imaginary, in my metaphysical world, that means it exists. You’ve made it real. That’s how Satan enters the world.
Well said, right? This Satan — the one in your head — doesn’t exist. But if you believe in it, follow it, act on it? It becomes real. That’s the danger.
What do you think of the Trump administration cracking down on universities and student protesters over Palestine?
It takes away freedom of expression — plain and simple. And it’s not going to end well for the Jews. This is just a political game. It’s not about safety or order; it’s about silencing dissent.
Now, I do believe we need to crack down on anyone who encourages violence. I’m not condoning physical altercations. But emotions? Those are natural. We’re no different from the Earth. We erupt. We flood. We quake. Just like a planet, we go through cycles — inside our hearts, inside our minds. And you have to let people express that. You have to let it out, or it festers.
That’s what I like about England. They let people protest. They let people speak. And once you express yourself peacefully, it’s like pressure releasing from a pipe. The steam lets out, and you calm down.
But Trump? Whatever moral compass he has — if any — it doesn’t guide him. He just does whatever gets him headlines. And the truth is, people put him there. He was voted in. And the ones who didn’t vote? They’re just as responsible. Their silence was a vote.
And don’t even get me started on the two-party system in this country. It’s a joke. You can’t run a nation on 50.1% telling the other 49.9% what to do. We need more parties. More voices. Not everybody is right, and not everybody is wrong. The only way forward is balance — between individuals and the collective. That’s how we build a world based on peace, love, and happiness.
Why is criticism of Israel so often labeled antisemitism?
“Antisemitism” is a word that doesn’t even apply to Israel. A Semite is someone from that region — which means Palestinians are Semites. European Jews? They’re not Semites. They’re Ashkenazi. They come from Europe. They adopted a Semitic religion, but their DNA doesn’t trace back to that land.
The term “antisemitism” was created to make Jews in Europe seem alien — like they didn’t belong on the continent. It was a political invention, and it worked. Jews were cast as foreigners, as people to fear. That language laid the foundation for the kind of nationalism that rose in the late 1800s — the same energy that created the German tribes, the Austro-Hungarian empire, the “Jewish question,” and all the rest.
The Second Reich — launched in 1870 after the Franco-Prussian War — used nationalism and industrialization to build modern Europe. And the Jews? They were set apart as “the other.” That’s where this really begins. It wasn’t about religion. It was about identity — political identity.
You have to understand: every empire, every modern nation, had to create an “us versus them.” And they always used Sky God to justify it. They’d say: Our god gave us this land. Our god says we’re different. Our god says they’re dangerous.And people believed it. That’s what gave rise to modern antisemitism.
So today, when someone criticizes the government of Israel — not Jews, but a government — and gets called antisemitic? That’s just the same old political weapon. It’s designed to shut people up.
What forces are blocking a ceasefire in 2025?
Hamas. 100%. They’re not going to make themselves extinct. That’s not going to happen. And Israel, with that far-right coalition — they want the land. They’re not going to share it. And I believe they’re 100% wrong.
What they’re doing in the West Bank — this land grab — it reminds me of P.F. Sloan’s song “Eve of Destruction,” the one Barry McGuire recorded. Sloan was a friend of mine later in life. I used to ask him: How did you write those lyrics? That song is the basis of a lot of my awareness.
So yes, Netanyahu is wrong. He’s keeping the war alive. He’s sitting there, and it’s disgusting. If Israel really had a leader — a real Jewish leader — he’d stand up and say: Our God is one. And so is yours. All these gods are the same. They’re not in human form. They’re the energy that gives us life. That’s what we should be united by.
And how do we even get here? Through the Holy Grail — through the womb of a woman. That’s the canal that brings life. That’s what we should be honoring.
When I listen to Zionists speak, I’m personally very bothered by the notion — whether said or unsaid — that one Israeli life is worth many Palestinian lives. Do you notice that undercurrent?
100%. And who are these scientists — who are they, really? The ones who act like they understand everything? Who claim they can define truth, history, even God? These are the people who genuinely believe they’re the only chosen ones of the only creator — that their bloodline, their tribe, was handpicked by a divine force to survive while others suffer. That arrogance is dangerous.
I explain all of this in my book and in my film. That so-called God — the one from the Bible — wasn’t a singular, omniscient being. He was Enlil. And Enlil went to war with his half-brother’s son, an entity called Marduk. These weren’t gods the way we think of them. They were advanced beings — creators of humanity. And like so many creators who think they own what they make, they fought over it. They had no regard for life.
In 2000 BC, they had weapons of mass destruction. That’s what Sodom and Gomorrah was — not some morality tale, but a real event. A war between gods. They dropped bombs. They obliterated cities. Why? Because human life meant nothing to them. We were their new dogs. We were their new pets.
And yes, people — that’s the naked truth. But here’s where we are now: we’re catching up. We’re evolving. We’re starting to understand the same forces they used — energy, vibration, frequency. That’s what we’re made of. That’s what we’ve been denied access to. But now we’re waking up.
The matrix we live in is a gravitational belief system. Not just physical — metaphysical. It locks you in place by feeding you illusions. And if you try to break free, you hit the walls that society has built in your mind: fear, guilt, shame. The boundary between imagination and reality. The lie that this world — the one we’ve been taught — is the only one that exists.
I think it’s disgusting. And I think the word “Zionist” — people throw it around without understanding where it came from. Zionism was born out of European politics. The Zionists wanted Jews out of Europe because, in the eyes of empire, they had become them. The outsider. The scapegoat. The eternal other.
Pink Floyd said it best: “Us and Them.” That lyric cuts through the illusion. Because it’s always been that way — manufactured division.
And for me, the truth? It’s always lived in music. That’s where I’ve found the answers. That’s where the frequency of truth lives.
What should people know about the real relationship between the U.S. and the modern state of Israel on the world stage?
It’s a banking game. Just pure banking.
How so?
They’ve got a white European culture running Israel — a culture the West trusts to be their footprint in that part of the Middle East.
Explain the banking part to people.
Banking. What’s the currency that we trade? We use Sky God to authenticate that these creeps — I call them banksters — control the currency of the world. The Federal Reserve. The IMF. The International Monetary Fund. That’s who really calls the shots.
What’s your perspective on Theodor Herzl and the origins of Zionism?
They came to me a few years ago with a script — a play, a movie — about Theodor Herzl. Wanted me to produce it. I read it, and I was disgusted. Somewhere, I still have the script.
This guy Herzl was a so-called Jewish journalist from the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He witnessed anti-Jewish sentiment — they called it antisemitism, but that’s a nonsense word. The European public didn’t even know what a Semite was. They just used the term to label Jews as alien — as something other, foreign. And it stuck.
Herzl wrote this pamphlet in 1896 called Der Judenstaat — The Jewish State. He laid out a vision for a Jewish homeland, and he spent the rest of his life trying to mobilize support for it. He died in 1904, but he became the face of modern Zionism.
What people don’t understand is that this wasn’t about religion — it was about politics. The World Zionist Organization came together to unite the scattered Jewish populations across these newly invented empires — the Austro-Hungarian, the German, the Ottoman. They weren’t building a spiritual nation; they were building a nationalist project. A European nationalist project.
Zionism was never about peace. It was never about living together. It was about control — and creating a base in the Middle East that European powers could trust to serve their interests. A proxy culture. A footprint. And that’s what Israel became. That’s what it still is today.
If you could sit down with Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas — and they actually listened — what would you say to each of them?
I couldn’t say anything to Hamas. I really believe they’re a rabid bunch of people who need to be removed from society. There’s no dialogue there. And Netanyahu? He needs to be given his walking papers. He will never unite Israel — and that’s exactly what the country needs right now: unity. Real unity.
But when you go to Israel and see what’s actually happening, it’s disgusting. You’ve got three different Jewish religions at odds with one another. The Orthodox — they don’t even serve in the military. Their job, for the men at least, is to read the Torah all day and interpret the metaphysical meaning of those words. That’s what they believe their role is.
And remember: “The Bible” just means “the book.” That’s all it is. What people call the Bible is really just misinterpretations of much older texts — the teachings of beings like Enki, one of the Nephilim. He was the father of Marduk, the other so-called god of Earth.
You and I already talked about Marduk — when we went into who Alexander the Great really was and why he was chasing his “super god,” his father. That’s the lineage we’re talking about. The beings from Nibiru who seeded life on Earth. They lived longer here than we do, because their biology and timelines are different from ours.
We’re Earth-based. We live as long as our bodies can orbit the sun. That’s the gravity cycle we’re locked into. But beings from Venus or Mercury? They live on different timelines. Venus, for instance, goes around the sun eight times for every five Earth years. That changes everything — it gives you a completely different experience of life and time.
And Nibiru? One of their years equals 3,600 Earth years. Imagine that. That’s the framework you need to understand if you really want to grasp what’s going on in the world today.
